CHARACTER BUILDS

So we go through Sword & Dual Sword in my two previous posts:

NIOH – BUILDS – THE CROSS SWORDSMAN – DUAL SWORDS

NIOH – BUILDS – RAINING RONIN – SWORD

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That’s the Holy Trinity for everyone, some have also succeeded in creating Tri-Sword build from the above. Today, we will add another “sword” style to this combination, the Odachi, new weapon added in Dragon of the North DLC.

This build focus on your ability to take over your opponent in an aggressive way. So if you like tanking mobs, this is the build for you.

ODACHI – GRUESOME

It’s been a while since the last time we see Odachi in video games, this is thanks to For Honor, for bringing back the popularity of this weapon. In reality, due to it’s size and weight, Odachi is not used very often, but in video games, this weapon is the best for showing the bad-ass aspect! 🙂

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PEW!

CHARACTER STATS

After Axe, Odachi is the second weapon to scale off STRENGTH and of course, this is your main focus. BODY  is also needed as you will need HP to endure enemies’s attacks. However, as HP is increased for all stats (but BODY scale the highest) you can temporarily “neglect” it (in higher difficulty, this stat is very important though), but an enough amount to wear armor is needed.

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STRENGHT is the main Odachi stat

STAMINA is also a stat that you will need to focus as later you will normally using Heavy Armor set (Tanetashi for example) However, with WEIGHT REDUCTION, STAMINA can be around 44 – 46 (my current build) to get B Agility.

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Finally, you will also need an enough amount of Ki to swinging that heavy piece of iron, which mean you will either need to master the Ki-pulse technique, having some affixes help Ki reduction, or (the best) using Odachi along with Sword.

With that said, Odachi require some more stats to master, so it’s easier to use as secondary weapon when you have maxed some of the core stat like HEART (increase your Ki alot)

That’s does not mean you can’t use Odachi on your 1st play-through though, just a suggestion 🙂

EQUIPMENT

EARLY GAME – WAY OF THE SAMURAI

(The first part is from previous post)

At the beginning  – Way of Samurai (lvl 1 -80), you will encounter Nioh first two sets (Equipment that will enable special affixes when equip together) – Warrior of the West and Red Demon Armor – mostly through Revenants (Red Graves resemble previous players deaths, usually carry their armor set and weapon) through out the mission

These two sets are the very basic set due to it’s damage increasement (10% for wearing 4 pieces of armor or equipment) and for 5 pieces the damage increase further more (~28%) when enemies are inflicted with Fire (Red Demon Armor) or Lighting (Warrior of the West)

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Warrior of The West increase 10% damage when equip 4 pieces
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The Red Demon Set is similar to Warrior of the West however support the Fire Element, with 5 pieces, the damage is increased by 27.5% if Enemies are Scorched

These two sets is also categorized as Light Armor, if you don’t have much STAMINA, the Agility Stats of the character will often stay at B – a very safe bet for you to not cost too much Ki when dodge and attack.

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Agility C when character weight get over 70%

MID AND END GAME – WAY OF THE STRONG AND ABOVE

With the tendency of tanking the enemy, your focus should be armor that help increase toughness and reduce the damage received. Again, Tanetashi is one of the choices, Armour of The Exceptional is also good but as it’s a Spear set, some of the affixes is not used to full potential.

With update 1.14 – 1.16 A new set has been added – General of Kigetsu, which provide Damage Reduction, Attack Increase base on bad status aliment. This combine with Hermit Talisman & Carnage Talisman is one of the best armor for Odachi

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With Tanetashi, we also have EQUIPMENT WEIGHT BONUS A, which is perfectly synced with the Heavy Armors

Finally, you can also mixing the sets for some damage increasement. This is depend on your play-styles, some may prefer Warrior of the West with Tanetashi, other used their previous Kingo set for Sword.

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Kingo set có thể dùng như set bỗ trợ

Some set that has Odachi as a weapon:

  • He who never retreat (The affixes are quite strange with make it’s hard to use)
  • General of Kigetsu (Added on second DLC Defiant Honor) – A very well-rounded set that sync with Odachi

WEAPON AFFIXES

At the beginning (First Play-through) you don’t need to focus much on the affixes, simply pick up the stronger weapons on your journey and use it, as to modify affixes and change them require lot of upgrades and materials – which is more suitable for end game (Way of the Strong/Demon/Wise)

Just as mentioned in NIOH – THÔNG SỐ TRANG BỊ – PHẦN 1 – WEAPONS, there are many affixes that help increase the damage of the weapons, however, there are some core affixes that every weapons should have.

  • CLOSE COMBAT DAMAGE 10% – 20%/ SKILL DAMAGE 15 – 20%
  • FAMILIARITY DAMAGE BONUS A
  • KILLING STRIKE DAMAGE 18 – 25%
  • SKILL DAMAGE (Moonlit Snow) 17 – 25%
  • CHANGE TO ATTACK (STRENGTH) A+

In Odachi, you can also use:

  • CLOSE COMBAT KI DAMAGE 17 – 25%

Initially, the Ki damage from Odachi is one of the best in game, but with this, the process is even easier, imagine facing Human opponent where they can be exhausted in just one or two skill.

In 1.14 update, a new affix for Odachi come up 

  • MOONLIT SNOW X3 (ATTACK DAMAGE X2) 

This increase the damage of last Moonlit Snow hit (the 4th hit) by double, but does require some setup as you also need to land the first 3 hits. With some practice, this can be used as an alternative to the above affixes.

CHANGE TO ATTACK (STRENGTH) is ideal when you using Sword build from the beginning – as your first max stat is STRENGTH, however, if you are using Sword as a secondary weapon, and your first max stat is not STRENGTH, this should be the one that you are already maxed (HEART, STAMINA, SKILL…), this is the most efficient damage increasement affixes and very hard to roll as well, however with Temper, this process is a little easier.

SKILL DAMAGE & CLOSE COMBAT DAMAGE (CCD) These two affixes are not stack, which mean you can only choose one over another, at first glance CCD seem better as it increase overall damage, however, it’s hard to roll the best stat (20%) so you can use SKILL DAMAGE as an alternative

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SKILL DAMAGE (MOONLIT SNOW) – This affix only appear when you Forge Weapon or from loot drop, which mean you can’t reforge it using Black Smith. One of the way to get this is to obtain the SMITHING TEXT for the Odachi of your liking.

Some good Odachis you should prefer:

  • Sekishu Kazushada (From the General of Kigetsu set)
  • Monohoshizao – dropped from Mysterious Samurai (Ganryu sub-mission in Defiant Honor)
  • Bloodstained Cleaver – Occasionally dropped from Namahage (New yokai appear in Dragon of the North, on Way of the Wise difficulty)
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My Odachi on Way of the Demon, as my first weapon is Dual Sword, CTA Skill is used

We still have one more slot for an affix, this is depend on your liking, if you want some “spark” here and there, elemental affixes is a good choices (FIRE, LIGHTING, WATER….) you can also choose Damage 50% which help increase damage of a specific element – this is the best when you are using Talisman as the main source of element damage. Finally, WEAKEN TORSO is also a good affix as it reduce the defense of the Chest Armor, in general, more damage for you!

ARMOR AFFIXES

Just like in NIOH – THÔNG SỐ TRANG BỊ – PHẦN 2 – ARMOR & ACCESSORIES Armor in Nioh also have some very good affixes (DAMAGE REDUCTION is a base affix that exist in all armor, however, higher in heavier armor)

  • TOUGHNESS
  • DEFENSE
  • BONUS FOR ABSORBING ARMITA (INCREASE ATTACK) (Helm only)
  • ATTACK
  • RECEIVED ELEMENTAL ATTACK DAMAMGE 20 – 25%

For Armor in this build, as we are using heavy armor setwe will need this stat:

  • WEIGHT REDUCTION 15 – 17%

This help reduce the weight of the armor and allow you to achieve B Agility when using heavy armor. With Temper, this is easier to get now.

Tanetashi
WEIGHT REDUCTION 14%

ACCESSORIES AFFIXES AND RANGED WEAPONS AFFIXES

As we are using heavy armor, you will need to have this affix:

  • EQUIPMENT WEIGHT DAMAGE BONUS A

This help increase damage base on the weight of the character (~15% for over 30.1 Weight)

For Ranged Weapon, as the affix of the Ranged Weapon can be enabled if it’s used on primary slot, We can simply choose a weapon with AGILITY DAMAGE BONUS A and leave it there. At B Agility, this should be around 8% in Damage increasement, not bad for something that we never used much!

For Accessories, you will need a Yasakani Magatama (enable mixing the Sets) and any accessories to your liking as long as they have this:

  • YOKAI CLOSE COMBAT DAMAGE 10 – 15%

A little limit there, but given your enemies in this game are mostly Yokai, this should be enough 🙂

SKILLS

A big let down from Odachi skill tree is the maze like description. The purpose was to create a weapon which enable linking between stances and open up chances for some good combo.

Example: You hit Square in Mid Stance and then follow up with Triangle, William will finish with a Heavy attack in High Stance and changing stance in the process.

However, when it come to execution, the description is overly complex and require some serious mapping to make sure things work, and sometime it’s not even useful! (if you think otherwise, please comment your play-style 🙂 )

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There are around 6 skills like this, enable switching stances during normal attacks, but mostly useless – IMO

With that said, the below list is the skills you need to focus – these are almost considered must have for Odachi user.

  • Flux – All moves – This help your regenerate Ki when changing Stance using R1 at correct time, master this skill is crucial to every builds.
  • Crashing Wave – Using your hilt and body to break enemy guard, one of the best skill to use on Human opponents.
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Kiaiiii!
  • Charging Bull – This cause massive Ki damage to enemies, if their Ki bar is depleted, using your sword to knockdown the enemy. One of the most bad-ass looking skill in Nioh
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Nếu đối thủ hết Ki, dùng kiếm đè người!
  • Moonlit Snow – Gathering strength and slash three times, if charged the last slash will hit two times. The bread and butter of Odachi skills
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Taking a closer look, the slashes represent the season in year (Snow, Leaves, and lastly Spring Blossom)
  • Passage to the Afterlife – Increase Grapple damage (Mostly used on human enemy)
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  • Sword of Severance – Increase damage on Human Opponent by 12%
  • Mystic Art – Subtle Blade – Increase Ki damage on attacking Human Opponent

In Nioh, the passive skills from other trees can also be applied without using the weapon, so it’s worth to upgrade if those skills are suit your need. Some useful skills below:

Shadow Strike
Increase damage from behind – Kusarigama
Amour Piercer
Increase Final Blow Damage Kusarigama – Max 12%
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200 HP in Axe Skills

GUARDIAN SPIRIT

Once again, another build using skill, so we will make friend with spirit that help increase Skill Damage. Kato is one of our first choices

Another Spirit is Kara-Jishi, help increase your damage (as a buff) after each skill your performed on enemy, this spirit also support Lighting Element, if you like Lighting, this is your best choice.

INCREASE ATTACK (SKILL) does not show the exact number, but many ppls reported that this is around 40% increase, an impressive affix, during my play through, damage from Kara-Jishi is higher than Kato in most cases especially when using Lighting.

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Kato increase Skill Damage 21% along with Close Combat Attack 14%, while Kara-jishi increase damage every time you use a Skill
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Kara-Jishi – The Lighting Lion

NINJUTSU AND ONMYO MAGIC

In Ninjutsu & Onmyo Magic, you will need some basic skills. With Ninjutsu, you can use Quick Change Scroll – one more chance after death. There are also many other traps, bomb that you may like, however, this require some ninjutsu points and a will more suitable if you have high DEXTERITY

As for Onmyo Magic, you will need some basic stuff – Weakness Talisman, Carnage Talisman & Steel Talisman

After 1.14 patch, we have a new talisman – Leeching Talisman – increase damage base on HP loss, however, reduce HP during the duration. This can be a substitute for Carnage as it’s higher – around 55% 

The Paralytic Groundfire is also added in 1.14 for Ninjutsu Skills, which enable an awesome skills for Human Opponents

When playing, the order of buff should follow this:

Quick Change Scroll >> Carnage Talisman/ Leeching Talisman >> Steel Talisman >> Weakness Talisman

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Quick Change SCroll, Weakness Talisman và Carnage Talisman

You can also upgrade the skills in Ninjutsu & Onmyo magic to allow carry more ninjutsu items as well as the Mystic Arts that help cancel the buff animation

SAY NO TO SLOTH! 🙂

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Enlightment – Allow you to cancel animation when performing Ninjutsu
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Awakenening – Allow you to cancel animation when performing Onmyo Magic

PLAY STYLE

At first, Odachi is not very popular, due to it’s speed and looks, but later, many find out that there’s a lot of awesome trait that make Odachi a killer weapon!

Normal damage is higher and wider reach

Before Odachi, Axe is a weapon which has high damage normal attack, however have some downside in speed, Odachi appear as an alternative for balance out the speed and power.

Ridiculous Ki damage

Crashing Wave – R1 + Square is one of the best skill in game for Human Opponent, just around two hits will make the enemy exhaust and vulnerable. You can either follow up by Knock them down and final blow or just simply grapple them. A quick demonstration of this skill is the Marobashi mission where I use this to finish off the Masters in around 2 minutes.

But does not mean it’s lack Skill Damage

As mentioned above, Moonlit Snow is the source of skill damage for Odachi, for Yokai, this is the killer move, in below video, a full hit can take up 50% HP (Way of the Demon lvl 365) This also come with good Poise which mean you cannot be stagger when execute this skill.

But this require a good damage reduction on your side or at least a large HP pool to endure the hit or you will death before execute the full move.


The above is my Odachi build – I do gather some information from other source – Reddit, Youtube… however I haven’t see any official guide for “pure” Odachi build, I believe this is due to the lack of supporting set, but with 1.16 update, a lot have been added for Odachi, you now have a lot of choices for this weapon.

But this does not stop the bad-asses of this weapon, we will use it again for another build – The Living Weapon!

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6 Comments »

  1. I disagree with the reviewer. On my frist playthrough when the game came out and there was no ODACHI or TONFA I played with katana…. and man it was hard. It lacked range and damage. Also in the beginning I didnt have many skills unlocked so I sucked. However I picked up DLC’s recently and started new game with ONLY ODACHI and tonfa as my second. ODACHI quickly became my favorite weapon and I would recommend it to beginners. It has good reach and damage, Skills only make it better. One thing to notice is that your KI will deplete fast hence if you fight againts tanky revenants its best to switch to Tonfa to block and drain enemy then switch to Odachi for final blows. I never had it easier. ODACHI is the best.

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    • Glad to hear that! Yeah i noted it should be 2nd weapon is because of the Ki cost as well, it does require some Ki management skill before going frontal on enemy, I didn’t try to second down any weapon as each has it’s own strenght and weakness, maybe i will use another tone on my next posts, thx for ur comment!

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  2. Man thanks for this guide I just got the PC version and I was debating to switch from Odachi/Twin Swords back to Katana and something else but this guide gives me some hope now lol. Is the Odachi better paired with the Katana over Dual Swords? In terms of stats I haven’t been focusing much into Str/Dex but more on Body/Magic/Dex atm

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    • Well, it’s depend on your secondary focus-stat bro! It’s better pair with Katana is because you need a decent amount of Ki to swing the Odachi, and Heart is the stat that help increase Ki, so it’s look like a no brainer. But this only applied from 1-300 level, when points are kind of limit. From 300+ onward I would say it’s your choice, as we have the Change to Attack () affix that helps character use entirely different stat scale weapon (like using Odachi while your highest stat is HEART with Change to Attack Heart)

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  3. Alright I think I might respec to Odachi/Katana then it feels like Dual Sword should be paired with something else lol So far I have to say it seems like Nioh was really balanced around the Katana considering there are so many weapons and sets for it. I do however love to abuse Charging Bull on almost everything 😀

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